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What is the English name of that bird? Part 7. Diademed Sandpiper-Plover (DSP) or Diademed Plover (DP)?
Date: Feb 12 - 2008
 
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After Paton et al. 2003 published the final genetic proof that this all time favorite - the "top" shorbird that lives at altitudes of over 4500m - that behaves like a plover, but has a sandpiper bill, is in fact mostly a plover (genetically), some smartass renamers want to deprive the world of the Sandpiper part of the name. In a sense it is logical, but since this plover is so different from all other plovers, is it necessary to change the name?

SACC as we know follow Dickinson's second edition of Howard and Moore's "Checklist of the Birds of the World". Certainly Diademed Plover was an improvement from the first edition, where it was called Mitchell's Plover, and since SACC has still not voted on this one and IOC probably just are reflecting the taxonomic correctnesss, this may not be a lost battle. Place your vote now!

Kapten Kaos says: When for once AOU and SACC are allowed to keep a hyphenated name (combination of two different families or groups, where the first indicates a similarity and the second the true belonging of the bird), they don't take the bait.
There is some history with DSP. De Schauensee, Fjeldså, Clements and GOD all called it the Diademed Sandpiper-Plover. Let´s keep it that way.  I want to keep DSP on my list!!

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  Opt 1: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Plover (2 votes) 
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  Opt 2: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Mitchell`s Plover (0 votes) 
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  Opt 3: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Sandpiper-Plover (3 votes) 
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Gustavo Bautista Molina (Jan 22 - 2010)
Voted: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Sandpiper-Plover
The name of any bird not just of this one, should be according to the genes, I mean scientifically, then according to behavior and so. Anyways the use of the name should also depend on who is mentioning it. A group of biologists who must be up to date should call it Diademed Sandpiper-Plover, while enthusiastic birders should use the name of Mitchell`s Plover or even Diademed Sandpiper-Plover not because they look for the up to date name but just because they are used to call it like that. For example I work for birdwatching agencies in Peru, and if I spot this lovely bird, I will refer to it as the Diademed Sandpiper-Plover,(SACC Classification Version 30 September 2009) and lately will explain the other names that are outdated. So yes, from 30 Sep. and from now on DSP!!!
Vince Cavalieri (Sep 30 - 2009)
Voted: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Sandpiper-Plover
Just a much more interesting name and distinguishes it as something a little different and special.
Tino Mischler (Oct 10 - 2008)
Voted: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Plover
simple is best. Only scientific names show sistematic grouping best, so why bother? Author of above introduction should give his real name, as we are urged to do so, too.
Gunnar engblom (Jul 29 - 2008)
Voted: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Sandpiper-Plover
DSP forever!!!
Trevor maynard (May 12 - 2008)
Voted: Phegornis mitchelli should be called Diademed Plover
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